Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. Rorrer was sentenced to two life sentences at the women's state prison in Muncy, Pennsylvania. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? Wow. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. Insiders said the 63-year-old even offered to be in charge of running some of the Royal Family's much-loved estates, including Queen Elizabeth's beloved summer residence,Balmoral Castle in Aberdeenshire. It seems so, according to you. All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. New state, new man. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. More hairs there. Stable situation. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? I hope she rots in hell. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Police obtained samples of her blood and hair, and a microscopic examination revealed similarities to hair found at the crime scene. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. Nope. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Its never been made clear. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. And NOBODY saw her at all? Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Although I would have liked it to be death! Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. Highly charged case. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Living on the edge (literally! Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. I cant lose them, he told the media. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. Very similar. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. You seem to have a fragile ego. Rorrer called Myers collect from the jail Tuesday afternoon. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. ``Some people just don't know how to let go,' Hege said. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. A woman convicted in the 1994 murders of a Catasauquawoman and the victim's 3-month-old son was back in court on Tuesday. The Duke of York appeared cheerful when . I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. One lengthy sentence which goes on and on and concludes with one of my sentences from a previous comment! You are absolutely right. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. Mrs. Katrinak had been shot in the face and . Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. The District Attorney got this one right. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. Andrew has not demanded this. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. Andrew Tates legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Sorry not sorry. Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. They are total bs. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. Discover address history, phone, age and more. Rorrer waived her extradition rights late Tuesday afternoon. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! No show. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. ``Her lawyer said anything we say could be used against her,' Chambers said late Tuesday night. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. The bodies were nearby, said state police Capt. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Stop. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. They had 7 children: Eleanor Dorothy Thornberg (born Katrinak) and 6 other children. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. 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Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Officers responded just after 5 a.m. Wednesday to an area near the intersection of Martin Luther King Drive and Carolyn Coleman Way and found , "The Wall Street Journal just so happened to have a supportive op-ed ready to publish within hours of the meeting. Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. He said she paid her bills on time, fed his horse along with hers and comforted him when his father died in December. Re Routier, the claim that she inflicted a potentially fatal injury on herself by no means indicates another perp: she could have inflicted it in ignorance, as a suicide attempt, or in a semi-psychotic state. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Not everything is a conspiracy. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Cop defends accused. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. An intensive search was launched, and family members distributed hundreds of missing-person flyers around Pennsylvania. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide.
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