my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. The chart shows the TRUTH. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. However, if you want me to help you to find Jesus, that is why I am here. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. xx, haha you are so cute, I like you and you write very simple and easy to understand. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. All of astrology is neutral. Who is whom? 1. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! Not good, my Friend. I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. Eros Synastry Aspects: The asteroid, Eros, represents erotic love, sex, passion and intimacy. I hope I can do this in my articles. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! It is valued! This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. My main point is reflection. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The Lilith conjunct Mars synastry aspect means that this relationship is made up of two fighters. Conjunction, Opposition, Square, and Trine! I know my life, and what manifests in it. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. This can indicate marriage, but it can also indicate a long-term romantic or sexual relationship. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Thank you, Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. You are very welcome, my Friend. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. I do charts for the people who want them. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. This would take a whole chart reading. Also, there is no abuse either way. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Check house placement and aspects to further your . and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. Any comments will help. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. Eros is also prominent in their synastry. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Could it be a past life meaning? We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! Which probably held it together for SO long. I also found out that my Nessus is 1 degree conjunct my current boyfriends Sun(Cancer). The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Do you have any advice for me? I'm not typically the "make him suffer" type, but holy wow did it all come rushing out with him. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. The first would be Nessus. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. I just never have, not that it is not good. 9. I read all these comments and yes they are interesting. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. It is real to be neutral. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. Hardly. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. Your articles hit me hard again:-). I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. 8. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. YES. Eros & Psyche in. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. Oh dear, I am soooooo freaked out!!!!!!! He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. Next: Synastry Books Compared . I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. Planets and asteroids will be modified when they aspect each other, this the possibilities are endless. Thank you for your words. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. Partners switch roles? Their chemistry is obvious even after all these years but she did recently reveal that some light BDSM play is involved. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. How does that play out? I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. Great questions. Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. Maybe you felt this way sometimes given your Lilith-Eros contacts, but I was certainly the one more outwardly angry when the mess finally hit the fan. As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. These are too many questions for text. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. That is most certainly not the truth. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? If you know, let me know! If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. Ami, no one can describe astrology better than you. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Thank you for this information! Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. The nessus and deja conjunction is in Cancer. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. Thanks for your help Amiann. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. what would result from this? And as far as I know theres a strong correlation between nessus and psychopaths/abusers. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. as well as to the signs and houses. I would put Moon/Pluto first in terms of super connection and passion and Venus/Pluto second. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. I mean, a persons life is complicated. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. . I am sorry! Eros represents what turns us on. I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. Sorry, lol. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. It is typical cat and mouse game with taboo twists. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Youll always want to look at the chart as a whole, read everything as a metaphors, and use your intuition. Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Ami, hello. For that reason, I am not for everyone and know this but I seem to be appreciated by people who think like I do. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. . Hats off to your courage. I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. YES, your Deja conj his NN will make you his victim, to put it really directly. Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. Your words mean a lot to me! Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. Hey there! Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. She is deeply alluring and irresistible. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. so, quick question, where do I post it? Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). I feel like it helps me. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. Maybe, maybe not. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. I admire your wisdom. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. Hi To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. Im pluto and he is the moon. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. That being said, the charts WILL play out, imo and ime. I've found that the Eros person has a "crush" on the planet person. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. It is not as intense as the conjunction but very intense, nonetheless. Come and post the charts. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! The conjunction is excact. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. what do you think about a double-wammy moon sextile pluto and pluto square moon in sinastry? Thanks SO much for your kind words. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. Where did you get these theories from? Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. What is your opinion on Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. How do we honor Lilith in our lives? Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! I would say no, but I am not the last word in anything. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto.