I have found HS-6, Universal, and W231 powders work very well for standard loads, while IMR 4227 bulks up nicely in 45 Colt brass. Moving up to the second level, loads at around 1,000 fps with the same-weight bullet are used in the Colt New Frontier, Smith & Wesson Model 25/625, Ruger Flat-Top New Model, and the Ruger New Vaquero. Over the nearly 15 decades since its arrival, there have been many attempts to pronounce it dead. In fact, an axiom with me is, When all else fails, try IMR 4227 before giving up. Years ago, after tiring of oversized 45 Colt chambers in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and New Frontiers, I started with a 357 Magnum New Frontier, had the cylinder rechambered properly and tightly to 45 Colt, and then had a new 4.75-inch Colt New Frontier barrel fitted. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. There simply is not much that cannot be accomplished with the 45 Colt. I didnt realize how many different powders from Hodgdon I use in loading the 45 Colt until I began putting this article together. However, a tight-chambered 45 Colt cylinder may require tolerances offered by a 454 Casull full-length sizing die. Bob Meinert, FN Marketing Director, introduces FN's first commercial pistol suppressor, the FN Rush 9Ti. Then something dramatic happened in 1869: Smith & Wesson brought forth the 44 American sixgun that used fixed ammunition. Oregon Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: But the 45 Colt is a survivor. With the 45 Colt, IMR 4227 is almost magical in being able to provide excellent accuracy when other powders will not. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. This Colt SAA .45 was manufactured in 1893 and saw extensive use on the frontier prior to being professionally restored. 310 Tong Tool. RCBS also offers an excellent bullet of standard weight with the #45-255KT that has a better crimping groove than the Keith bullet. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: Connecticut Department of Energy & Environmental Protection, State Agency: When he died in 1862, the company was dedicated to producing the same percussion revolvers. No purchase necessary. Load data for caliber ".45 Colt". considered more the norm. (NOTE: Sections marked Ruger Only are not for the New Model Blackhawk Flat-Tops or the New Vaquero!) It has never failed me. New Jersey Division of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. Contest open to U.S. residents only. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Checked and verified, page 285, 4th Ed.Lyman cast bullet handbook. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. Contest open to U.S. residents only. The powder that has the lowest velocities are produced by Trailboss which also has the advantage of filling up the 45LC case. For developing the accompanying data, a 1970 vintage (second generation) Colt New Frontier SAA with 5.5-inch barrel was. Basic Load Data Hornady Manufacturing Company develops and publishes reloading data for the Handbook of Cartridge Reloading. .45 Colt Keith bullets: Lyman #454424 (264 gr. Nebraska Game & Parks Commission, State Agency: I shoot the .44 and .45 in rifles and pistolas, but I have only a rifle in .38-40. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. That is, until I tried IMR 4227 with Lymans #452424 and a 20.0-grain load, and that combination produced one-hole groups. The revolver and ammunition were officially adopted for service in 1873. A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again. A check of Hodgdons loading manuals shows these two powders using the same charge weight produce the same velocities and pressures. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. The .45 Colt was developed in 1872 and first chambered for the Colt Single Action Army revolver in 1873. Contrary to what has been traditionally published, records indicate that early loads from Frankford Arsenal contained a copper case loaded with a 250-grain, roundnose flatpoint lead bullet pushed with 30 grains of black powder, with additional charge weights soon added. No purchase necessary. Everyone who has a Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms single-action revolver realizes the roots of these modern guns go back to the Colt Single Action Army. im leaning towards the ruger blackhawk bisley 45 long cot 5.5 barrel. The vast majority of my 45 Colt handloads over the last 60 years, however, has been put together with cast bullets. The new big bore pistols feature industry-first capacity, with a standard 15-round capacity and 22+1 rounds of 10mm or 18+1 rounds of .45 ACP from the extended magazines. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Everyone who has a Ruger Blackhawk or Freedom Arms single-action revolver realizes the roots of these modern guns go back to the Colt Single Action Army. These two bullets in a custom five-shot Blackhawk or Freedom Arms Model 83 five-shooter can be driven to 1,450 fps with W296 or H110. With the coming of Rugers Blackhawk chambered in 45 Colt in the early 1970s, we finally had a sixgun that could tap the tremendous potential of the 45 Colt cartridge. The new RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol from Rock Island Armory features a patented RVS Recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give shooters super soft recoil. This is a plain base bullet and I found out very quickly it was not very accurate in either rifle. Elmer Keiths custom Colt single action was used to develop his heavy 44 Special loads in the late 1920s, and for a long time the 45 Colt cartridge was accused of being weak. S.A.A.M.I. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. (WC= WadCutter, SWC= Semi-WadCutter, HP= Hollow Point, RN= Round Nose, FMC= Full Metal Case, FMJ= Full Metal Jacket, JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet), Loads for .45 Colt: That brings us to the next level, which includes 45 Colt revolvers built on the Ruger Super Blackhawk frame and the Ruger Old Model Blackhawk, the arrival of which led to two separate load sections showing up in loading manuals. Normal powders vary quite a bit and also have a larger spread between shots. The other problem, that of cylinder throat diameters, centers around the fact that they vary considerably. I would conclude this powder is much more consistent in speeds than others that I have tried in the .45 Colt. More than 45 years of shooting and slugging the barrels of hundreds of Colt SAAs suggests differently. The final level includes custom five-shot Rugers and the Freedom Arms Model 83. His 45 Colt bullet was #454424 and was available for decades from Lyman. i even just recieved an awsome holster rig new,lined,scroll work, you name it , looks fantastic quality for only 40.00,,,got hooked up with this awsome lady on ebay,whos selling them for a friend who makes them. Dropping down to 30 grains results in an easier-shooting 835 fps and a group of 1.13 inches. Rifle Data Here you will find load data for some of the most recent cartridges on the market, with more being added each week. Lyman now offers it as #452424, and it is a 255-grain bulletor thereabouts, depending upon the alloy used. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: Starting load is 12.4 grains and top load is 15.4 grains of Blue Dot. This prevents bullets from being sized down when seated into an overly tight case. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: Exactly when the .45 Colt factory load containing 250-grain bullets propelled by 40 grains of black powder was first offered is unknown, but it was probably assembled at the Colt factory. For several years Smith & Wesson cut throats at 0.455 inch or even larger, but now they seem to be running at a more proper 0.451 to 0.452 inch. For comparison the above .44 Magnum factory loads (which are admittedly conservative) have a TKO factor only slightly higher at 17.35. Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. Failure to do so could result in severe personal injury (or death) and/or property damage. No data for RX7 and this bullet in the 1886 Winchester & 1895 Marlin section. Knowing this measurement for a given revolver is critical to select the correct components to achieve accuracy. In part one of this series we saw the history of .45 Colt leverguns, which turned out to be quite recent, beginning in the early 1980s. With Accurates 5744 the speeds with 17.0 were 853 fps UP and 802 DOWN, but spreads were much better at 45 fps and 16.6 fps respectively. Custom five-shooters built on the Ruger Blackhawk, the Ruger Redhawk, and the Freedom Arms Model 83 top the list. For loading black powder 45 Colt loads, I use Goex as well as Pyrodex and Triple Seven. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. rifling. Their 10mm Devastator (Lyman #401638 HP) has a listed weight of 155 grains, and is a HP version of their very accurate 175 grain TC design. It is often associated with its vital role in settling the western frontier, where it found favor with lawmen, outlaws and anyone that needed a potent sixgun. Next we will look at jacketed bullets in .45 Colt leverguns. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. No purchase necessary. These black-powder guns should not be fired with smokeless powder loads. The performance level is pretty close to the original Black Powder load but far more effective due to the bullet I use. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. When time is a problem, actually when sometimes my own energy is the problem, I look to Oregon Trail Bullets. We are blessed to have many excellent cartridges and sixguns available to us, but it would be hard to find any cartridge that is as versatile as the old 45 Colt. With these bullets sized .452" and cast of 16 parts lead to 1 part tin, try this loading with 19.0 grains of WW-296 or 19.5 grains of H-110 in Star-line cases with Fed 155 primers and Bubba lube, or Javelina or NEI pistol lube. your comments are very greatful. During my early teenage years I acquired a beautiful pre-World War II Colt SAA .45 that was customized by one of the masters during the 1920s. The Colt factory has told me these large throats are intended to keep chamber pressures low, which is nonsense. 2021. This is a plain base bullet and I found out very quickly it was not very accurate in either rifle. Missouri Deptartment of Conservation, State Agency: Deployed military should use stateside address. You may wish to peruse the list of cartridges first as many times the difference in 45-70 and 45/70 may mean finding data or drawing a blank. Handgun Data. My brass of choice is Starlines excellent 45 Colt brass with CCI 300 Large Pistol primers for all powders, except I switch to CCI 350 Magnum Pistol primers with IMR 4227, H110, W296, and all black powder and black powder substitutes. Contest void where prohibited by law. However, Dick Casull started with the 45 Colt single action and the weak 45 Colt case to come up with his cartridge, which eventually became the 454 Casull. I also have been having good luck lately with 10.0 grains of HS-6 and 250- to 260-grain bullets, which duplicates the performance of the early black powder loads. The Hornady 225-grain FTX bullet should be loaded in cases trimmed shorter than the industry standard of 1.215 inches. A bullet with a copper gas check or copper plating is best for INDOOR ranges to keep lead vapors out of the air. youd need for most critters in the lower 48. Contest void where prohibited by law. * which is just a little over maximum Colt loads (but mild for Ruger) shot an average of 880.2 fps pointing up and 708.0 fps pointing down, but the spread between shots was 146 fps and 235 fps respectively. Contest void where prohibited by law. that charge was increased to 38 grains by 1898. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. For clarification, the above three, revolvers are completely original with barrels featuring the small rounded bead-type. In 1898, Colt made the necessary changes to permit its guns to be used with smokeless powders; however, it wasnt until 1900 (revolvers with serial number 192,000 or higher) that Colt began to officially warrant its guns for such. It is my most used powder both in cap-and-ball and cartridge-firing sixguns when black powder loads are desired. With multiple powder charge weights there has been considerable confusion on this subject. Keiths #454424 was an excellent bullet, but it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. It also is a most versatile powder as it can be used for standard loads for the Colt SAA and heavy loads for the Blackhawk. Reloader 7 - 37.0 grains start, 39.0 grains max. patterned after the one worn by Theodore Roosevelt. Use 10% UNDER any values you see here for N-100. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not . Space constraints keep me from looking at all of these powders in depth, but I can cover a few. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. I shot all kinds of bullets and powders from my 45 colt from 200gr to 350 gr trying to find something that was better than the other. But the 45 Colt is a survivor. I didnt think I could shoot this well! Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. .45 Colt Handgun Data (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition) Warning! Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6, HS7 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. It is clear why the .45 Colt had such a stellar reputation as a man stopper and for its effectiveness on game. After all the work and expense, it turned out to be a somewhat mediocre performer. Exactly the same grain size as with powder N320, N330 and N350 - only the porosity of the powder changes.The burning rate of the N340 is at the medium scale of Vihtavuori handgun powders - and as with powder N320, with N340 extremely clean burning and . Loading the .45 Colt It's vital to understand today's loading manuals typically include .45 Colt loads at two different power levels: under 14,000 CUP and under 29,000 PSI. These two bullets in a custom five-shot Blackhawk or Freedom Arms Model 83 five-shooter can be driven to 1,450 fps with W296 or H110. flatpoint Keith-style bullets. These figures correspond with the many other pre-World War II guns that I have slugged. This database has 6400 loads for cast bullet loads. Using bullets from . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. In guns with .452-inch throats, the Magma designed 250-grain RNFP offered by most commercial cast bullet companies (Oregon Trail used here) can be surprisingly accurate. The original conical bullet found in black powder 45 Colt loads from the 1870s is very close to the Lyman #454190 and the RCBS #45-255 FN. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM February 2023, P.O. Moving up to 22.0 grains increases the muzzle velocity to 1,300 fps and then 24.0 grains is right at 1,400 fps with both putting three shots in at 45 yards. I was fortunate to find one of each. Deployed military should use stateside address. The .45 Colt is a grand cartridge that has survived because it is so good. When the Marlin and Winchester Trappers first arrived in the early 80s, the #1 45 Colt bullet was still Elmer Keiths #454424 weighing about 260 grains from my alloy. (See note on NEW Nitro 100 powder at bottom of page). For little more power I move up to the above-mentioned #454490 GC with 10.0 grains of Unique for just over 1,235 fps and groups of less than 1". These Lyman loads are conservative made for older guns. In preparation for this article, I pulled from my personal collection a Colt SAA with serial number 16xxx (1875) that slugged an average groove diameter of .450 inch. This was achieved with 40 grains of black powder. His 45 Colt bullet was #454424 and was available for decades from Lyman. USE THIS DATA WITH ALLIANT BRAND POWDERS ONLY. A Modern rifle should handle these loads equally as well, such as the Winchester Model 94. It is a good choice for self-defense, long-range shooting, hunting everything on four legs, and just plain fun shooting. Yes, these loads in this rifle could be stretched farther, however for feral pigs or white tail deer from a stand one would rarely have to shoot any farther than this. When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. I have found HS-6, Universal, and W231 powders work very well for standard loads, while IMR 4227 bulks up nicely in 45 Colt brass. This is a great all purpose load for the .45 Colt. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It didnt take long for manufacturers to offer heavier bullets, and two of the best came from NEI. Using a 250-grain cast bullet, 37.5 grains by volume of Pyrodex P results in a very potent 987 fps and a five-shot, 50-foot group of 0.88 inch in my revolver. Reference to Powder UP and Powder DOWN is to actually shake the gun in an up or down position before firing each round and gently bring the gun to the horizontal and shooting. For something with more thump, it would be wise to find some published load data and buy some bullets that match that data. There are some excellent jacketed bullets available for use in the 45 Colt, including the Sierra 240-grain JHP,Hornady250-grain XTP-JHP, and the Speer 260-grain JHP, all of which I prefer for deer-sized game. When Ray Thompson was designing his line of bullets, he did not neglect the 45. Sam Colt became a millionaire producing percussion revolvers. However, in those long-gone days I was able to find two Winchester Trappers both in .45 Colt and the Marlin versions in both calibers mentioned. We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. As I have gotten older and my hands have become more tender, I find myself moderating my everyday shooting loads. No purchase necessary. .45 Colt (180-200 grain bullets) .44 Mag (180-200 grain bullets) .38-40 (180 grain bullets) I had hangfires in the .45 Colt with less amount of Reddot. Deployed military should use stateside address. After a long days work on our remote cattle ranch, I would cast bullets and handload ammunition in the evening so that I could continue shooting the next day. 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Addeddate 2019-02-27 13:08:05 Identifier LymanReloadingHandbook48thEdition2002Ocr_201902 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t9093sd5t Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) It basically started in the early 1870s as a round-nosed bullet given a slight flattened nose. In his classic 1955 book Sixguns by Keith, Elmer Keith stated, As one grows older and his hair starts to turn grey, his respect for this grand old load increases. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Over the past 35 years all four of these leverguns have shot extensively with both jacketed and cast bullets. Michigan Deptartment of Natural Resources, State Agency: Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks, State Agency: Powders include I normally stay under 900 fps with a 250-grain bullet in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and its replicas. And about 1450+fps out of the 20" 454 Puma Levergun. I'll be a nice to you as you'll let me be, or as mean as you make me be. so when i find my gun,,i can get busy asap with this . Subscriber Services. For example, the most recent Speer Reloading Manual Number 15 states, Prior to 1945, most .45 Colt revolvers had a bore diameter of .454 inch. That is, if the loading table calls for 40 grains of black powder, then one uses a 40-grain volume powder measure for the same amount by volume of Pyrodex. Deployed military should use stateside address. ok 45 long colt lovers,,ring out ,lets hear from you,,the more the merry. Give a Gift The original conical bullet found in black powder 45 Colt loads from the 1870s is very close to the Lyman #454190 and the RCBS #45-255 FN. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Contest open to U.S. residents only. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. This same bullet can be loaded to much higher velocity in Rugers large-frame single- and double-action sixguns. 2020, Lyman Products Corporation, printed in U.S.A. All other trademarks in this catalog are the property of their respective owners. The .45 Colt is rapidly approaching 150 years in existence, and it remains one of our finest, most useful, versatile and handloaded sixgun cartridges. We were soon shooting 300-grain bullets at 1,200 fps from a 7.5-inch-barreled Ruger revolver. However, there are two problems associated with it: case capacity and cylinder throat diameters. Elmer Keith was way ahead of his time in developing everyday working and hunting loads. Note: Powder Mfgs. Meet the all-new Taurus Judge Executive Grade, a revolver featuring a hand-polished satin finish, presentation-grade wood grips, a brass rod front sight and an exceptional hand-tuned trigger. They often equal or surpass the accuracy from my carefully tailored hand-cast bullets. The original conical bullet found in black powder 45 Colt loads from the 1870s is very close to the Lyman #454190 and the RCBS #45-255 FN. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. A gun with these internal dimensions offers a much fairer assessment of the accuracy potential of all data. One problem inherent with the original #454424 was the fact that when sized to 0.451 to 0.452 inch, the crimping groove almost disappears. For the 45 Colt this is the Single Action Army revolver. His 45 Colt bullet was #454424 and was available for decades from Lyman. This one is from Lyman 48th addition Reloading book. Because case capacity is large, trying to produce lighter loads with slow-burning powders can give very poor results. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. RCBS also offers an excellent bullet of standard weight with the #45-255KT that has a better crimping groove than the Keith bullet. SWC - 9.0 grains Unique Lyman # 452664 , 250 gr. The weight would more properly be closer to 32 grains. The original loading was a bullet of approximately 255 grains with a muzzle velocity of somewhere around 850 to 900 fps. For several reasons they should not be used. However, the first known commercial listing is found in the 1880 UMC catalog. The day of the percussion revolver would soon be over, and even Colt could see the future and began converting 1860 cap-and-ball sixguns to fire cartridges. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and personal loads where noted. The Smith & Wesson Model 29 is the sixgun by which all other .44 Magnums are judged. The 45 Colt rim is smaller than the rim on a 45 Auto Rim. When the Marlin and Winchester Trappers first arrived in the early '80s, the #1 45 Colt bullet was still Elmer Keith's #454424 weighing about 260 grains from my alloy. This revolver is fitted with a new line-bored cylinder that is tightly chambered with .452-inch throats, a .003-inch barrel/cylinder gap and the forcing cone cut to 11 degrees. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Moving up to the second level, loads at around 1,000 fps with the same-weight bullet are used in the Colt New Frontier, Smith & Wesson Model 25/625, Ruger Flat-Top New Model, and the Ruger New Vaquero. A roll crimp is generally preferred and should be applied as heavily as the bullets crimp groove or cannelure will permit. Then comes the Freedom Arms Model 97, the original Ruger Vaquero, Ruger Blackhawk, Ruger Redhawk, and the Ruger Super Redhawk. It is impossible to go wrong with the 45 Colt. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Cast bullet loads in the Marlin .45 Colt all the power and accuracy Improving the Keith Bullet Keith's #454424 was an excellent bullet, however it has been improved by Dave Scovill and is offered by RCBS as #45-270SAA. Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: The Judge has been promoted! It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. Taurus Marketing Manager Caleb Giddings highlights the features of the new Taurus Raging Hunter 460 Magnum, a purpose-built revolver with a 10.5-inch barrel and an effective recoil-taming brake, with Guns & Ammo Executive Editor Joe Kurtenbach. However, when using soft swaged-lead bullets, an expander ball around .002 inch smaller than bullet diameter is preferred. I use my Winchester and Marlin Trappers for relatively close-range shooting. www.hodgdonreloading.com Broc NES Member Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2010 [See page on powder location in case affecting FPS elsewhere on pages] Those first Winchesters were 16 Trapper Models, with mine being purchased in 1985. All Rights Reserved. : .451" Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. Cartridge Type: Pistol/Revolver. In fact, an axiom with me is, When all else fails, try IMR 4227 before giving up. Years ago, after tiring of oversized 45 Colt chambers in Colt Single Action Army revolvers and New Frontiers, I started with a 357 Magnum New Frontier, had the cylinder rechambered properly and tightly to 45 Colt, and then had a new 4.75-inch Colt New Frontier barrel fitted. The .45 Colt is rapidly approaching 150 years in existence, and it remains one of our finest, most useful, versatile and handloaded sixgun cartridges. Rim Rocks 255-grain SWC with gas check is accurate and alleviates leading issues with revolvers (or barrels) that are prone to that. We are blessed to have many excellent cartridges and sixguns available to us, but it would be hard to find any cartridge that is as versatile as the old 45 Colt. That is, if the loading table calls for 40 grains of black powder, then one uses a 40-grain volume powder measure for the same amount by volume of Pyrodex. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. The .45 Colt operates at notably less pressure, produces a slower, more. At 1,400 fps it is an excellent hunting bullet. Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th edition. His #452490GC was originally made for the 45 Auto Rim cartridge for use in the Smith & Wesson 1950 Target revolver, but I also use the Thompson design, which weighs around 255 grains, for heavy-duty loads approaching the energy of the 44 Magnum in the Ruger Blackhawk. REDUCE RIFLE AND HANDGUN CHARGE WEIGHTS BY 10% TO ESTABLISH A STARTING LOAD. Members 4.5k Gender:Male Location:Dolores, Colorado Interests:All types of shooting, hunting, fishing, camping. It also is a most versatile powder as it can be used for standard loads for the Colt SAA and heavy loads for the Blackhawk. bullet type,style,powder ,amount,col.,primeres,and if possable fps.
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